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  • #217
    Dana Timothy Peterson
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    Firstly, Happy Thanksgiving! Hope everyone is enjoying a nice day with family and friends.

    Secondly, I was wondering if my D36 friends can share some transmission stories with me. All season long, I have had a very difficult time trying to shift out of gear, as the transmission would be basically “stuck.” Often with some heavy prodding, i would be able to get it out of gear. In close quaters, I ended up having to let it slip some in order to not hit something. Well, in moving it to my winter slip last evening, the same thing happened, but the cable actually snapped at the helm (the gear shift moved with no resistance); however, the gear arm on the transmission didn’t move either.

    I would appreciate anyone’s advice as to where to begin with my transmission (westerbeke 4-107 (40) with original tranny). Any suggestions of a good mechanic in the Annapolis area? Lastly, anyone change trannys to a velvet drive?

    Thanks and Happy Holidays!

    -Dana Peterson
    s/v True North
    D36 CC Ketch

    #821
    stevechadduck
    Participant

    happy thanksgiving to you as well,
    while i don’t know anything about how to fix your issue i can suggest a great place to go to for answers and a mechanic…check out lippincott marina they’re not too far from you. just across the bridges in grasonville. matter of fact mine is stored there and they’re gonna be doing the work i need. best of luck to you

    steve chadduck
    s/v Skaphe
    D35 Ketch

    #822
    Dana Timothy Peterson
    Guest

    Thanks, Steve. I’ll give them a shout.

    #823
    Mike Aitken
    Participant

    Hi Dana,
    I assume you have the Paragon sail drive unit. I had mine out of the boat in 2007 and had to do a lot of “digging” for a manual, seals & parts when I had it all apart:

    You can get many of the needed Parts & a Paragon service manual from Great Lakes Power – at 1-800-325-6880. You want to speak with “Charlie” in parts – he has over 30 years experience with Paragon transmissions & was very helpful. The “service” manual is only 25 pages, but it has exploded views and “Trouble shooting charts” & solutions. In the gear dragging trouble shooting section there are 4 “check for” areas. 1. Defective forward clutch plates 2.reverse band engaging gear case 3. binding planetary system 4.over adjustment on forward & reverse. They have solutions for each. I think I paid $12-15 for this manual….well worth the price.

    This is a pretty simple transmission & easy to work on. If you are lucky the adjustment of the forward/reverse gear is incorrect (too tight) – this can be easily rectified with the tranny in the boat. Any other issues may require transmission removal. I’m pretty sure you can view clutches/planetary gears if the top plate is removed to see clutch plates or planetary gears to get an idea as to any obvious issues.

    Did you see “junk” in the oil when you changed it?? Any metal bits in the oil? Is the oil burned/black? Black oil is clutch lining wear……

    I’m not 100% sure but I think the length of a velvet drive is la couple inches longer & will not fit – not enough room.

    I just saw one of these transmissions on ebay a couple months ago for $175 or so…They are out there….
    Mike Aitken

    #824
    onzevil
    Participant

    Then what is it.

    #825
    Nauti Legal
    Participant

    Hi Dana,

    I also have a 36 cc with a paragon gear. In 2006 I ran over some construction plastic in the ICW and completely destroyed the transmission. Anyhow I completely rebuilt the transmission sitting in my cockpit using “Inboard Engine, Transmission & Drive Service Manual 3rd Edition by Clymer” . It had part numbers for every part in that transmission. This was my first time messing with a transmission and it couldn’t have gone smoother, 6-8 hrs and it was reinstalled. The book also has manuals for many different engines and transmissions. I hope this can be of some help to all.

    Shane Dooley
    s/v Nauti Legal
    Melbourne, Florida

    #826
    Dana Timothy Peterson
    Guest

    Shane and Mike,

    Thanks for your responses and encouragement. I will probably jump into this fix myself to see if I can make heads or tails of the issue. I will definitely grab the suggested manuals to guide me. Please be on the ready in case I have any questions when I start turning the wrenches!

    Thanks again and have a wonderful New Year.

    -Dana

    #827
    Pipat1234
    Participant

    Thank you ^^

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